Jake and Jonathan

53: How to Design Non-Sh**t Conferences with ANDY BUDD

Episode Summary

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of [Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/) and the man behind popular design conferences like [UX London](https://2019.uxlondon.com/) and [Leading Design](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork). Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesn’t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on: How Andy is pathological! It’s true! 👻 What are conferences for? Spoiler: it’s not education! 🤔 How to connect with people at conferences? 🤚🏻 How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? 🤯 Managing cashflow when running an agency. 🤑 How to agency? 🧐 Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. 😌 **Links:** [Andy Budd on Twitter](https://twitter.com/andybudd) [andybudd.com](http://andybudd.com/) [Clearleft](https://clearleft.com/) [UX London 2019](https://2019.uxlondon.com/) [Leading Design Conf 2019](https://2019.leadingdesignconf.com/newyork) [PBC #11: Why Most Design Conferences Suck](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-11-why-most-design-conferences-suck-f6966b5b9951) [PBC #44: Growing USTWO + The Future of Creative Business with Jules Ehrhardt](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-44-growing-ustwo-the-future-of-creative-business-with-jules-ehrhardt-f862a17365f8) [PBC #49: MONA PATEL on Starting and Growing a Multi Million Dollar Design Agency](https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial/pbc-49-mona-patel-on-starting-and-growing-a-multi-million-dollar-design-agency-b7b78b26250a) [Ex Machina](http://exmachina-movie.com/) [Artificial Intelligence: The Norwegian Retreat](https://clearleft.com/posts/artificial-intelligence-the-retreat-in-western-norway) [SXSW](https://www.sxsw.com/) [**BOOK:** The E-Myth Revisited: Why Most Small Businesses Don’t Work and What to Do About It by Michael E. Gerber](https://www.amazon.com/Myth-Revisited-Small-Businesses-About/dp/0887307280/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1541398953&sr=8-1&keywords=the+emyth+revisited) [**BOOK:** Capital: A Novel](https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Novel-John-Lanchester/dp/0393345092) [Smashing Conf](https://smashingconf.com/) [**Buy Sprint!**](https://www.thesprintbook.com/buy/) [**Buy Make Time!**](https://maketimebook.com/buy/) [Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the **AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Masterclass**:](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass)[ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) 💰 **Your Hosts:** * Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek) * Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/) * Write into the podcast: [pbc@ajsmart.com](mailto:pbc@ajsmart.com) * Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com) Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Episode Notes

Jonathan interviews Andy Budd, co-founder of Clearleft and the man behind popular design conferences like UX London and Leading Design. Jonathan asks lots of questions and but doesn’t even get close to asking everything he wants to ask. Some of the topics Jonathan and Andy touch on:

How Andy is pathological! It’s true! 👻

What are conferences for? Spoiler: it’s not education! 🤔

How to connect with people at conferences? 🤚🏻

How does Andy balance watching over 500 conference talks a year with running Clearleft? 🤯

Managing cashflow when running an agency. 🤑

How to agency? 🧐

Lastly they talk about selling out, because, spoiler, Jonathan is thinking of SELLING OFF AJ&SMART! WHAAAT! Yeah, no, just kidding. 😌

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