Jake and Jonathan

48: How to be a Product Leader - SCOTT BELSKY

Episode Summary

Jonathan interviews Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and currently Adobe's Chief Product Officer and Executive Vice President of Creative Cloud, and only asks him questions that were sent in by you, the listener! _Just kidding_, Jonathan selfishly asks Scott questions about building a business and about leadership, because those are the ones most relevant to Jonathan’s current role as a CEO. But he does throw in a product question at the end. So there’s at least one question for everyone! 😝 Here’s how the interview goes in broad strokes: Jonathan _gushes_ over [Scott Belsky](https://medium.com/u/f8025419d9c8). 😍 Scott Belsky on building Behance. 👷‍ How to keep people motivated. EMPATHY! 😌 The line between life and work. 💼 The lows & highs of creating a business & the importance of self-awareness during both. 📈 What do you do when you get the feeling that it’s not going to work out? When do you know when to quit? It’s all about conviction. 🤓 How to deal with distractions? 💩 Who _shouldn’t_ read the Messy Middle? 🛑 📖 What’s more important, _ideas_ or _execution_? ✨ A book within a book! 🧐 How people are _lazy_, _vain_, and _selfish_. 😬 Check out, _nay_, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: [ajsmart.com/masterclass](https://ajsmart.com/masterclass) 💰 ## Links: [ScottBelsky.com](http://www.scottbelsky.com/) [Scott Belsky on Twitter](https://twitter.com/scottbelsky) [Scott Belsky on Instagram](https://www.instagram.com/scottbelsky/) [**BOOK:** Making Ideas Happen by Scott Belsky](https://www.amazon.com/Making-Ideas-Happen-Overcoming-Obstacles/dp/1591844118/) [**BOOK:** The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky](https://www.amazon.com/Messy-Middle-Finding-Through-Hardest/dp/0735218072) [99u.com](https://99u.adobe.com/) [Behance.net](https://www.behance.net/) [AskGaryVee 290: Scott Belsky on Starting Behance, Perseverance in Business, & the “Messy Middle”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ue0lst-vRM) [The Tim Ferriss Show: Scott Belsky — How to Conquer the Messy Middle (#336)](https://tim.blog/2018/09/13/scott-belsky/) [The Real Journey image](https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*p6sfo-5PbrssU7I7-PjZHA.png) [Action Method: A Flexible and Intuitive Project Management System | 2008 | TechCrunch](https://techcrunch.com/2008/10/21/action-method-a-flexible-and-intuitive-task-management-system/?guccounter=1) [**BOOK:** Anything You Want by Derek Sivers](https://www.amazon.com/Anything-You-Want-Lessons-Entrepreneur/dp/1591848261) ## **Your Hosts:** * Follow Jake Knapp on Twitter: [@jakek](https://twitter.com/jakek) * Follow Jonathan Courtney on Instagram or Twitter: [@jicecream](https://www.instagram.com/jicecream/) * Write into the podcast: [pbc@ajsmart.com](mailto:pbc@ajsmart.com) * Podcast editing by Jason Sanderson: [PodcastTech.com](https://PodcastTech.com) Show Notes (fan made by [@amrkhalifeh](https://www.instagram.com/amrkhalifeh/)): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial

Episode Notes

Jonathan interviews Scott Belsky, founder of Behance and currently Adobe's Chief Product Officer and Executive Vice President of Creative Cloud, and only asks him questions that were sent in by you, the listener! Just kidding, Jonathan selfishly asks Scott questions about building a business and about leadership, because those are the ones most relevant to Jonathan’s current role as a CEO. But he does throw in a product question at the end. So there’s at least one question for everyone! 😝

Here’s how the interview goes in broad strokes:

Jonathan gushes over Scott Belsky. 😍

Scott Belsky on building Behance. 👷‍

How to keep people motivated. EMPATHY! 😌

The line between life and work. 💼

The lows & highs of creating a business & the importance of self-awareness during both. 📈

What do you do when you get the feeling that it’s not going to work out? When do you know when to quit? It’s all about conviction. 🤓

How to deal with distractions? 💩

Who shouldn’t read the Messy Middle? 🛑 📖

What’s more important, ideas or execution? ✨

A book within a book! 🧐

How people are lazy, vain, and selfish. 😬

Check out, nay, GO BUY the AJ&Smart + Jake Knapp Official Design Sprint Master-Class: ajsmart.com/masterclass 💰

Links:

ScottBelsky.com

Scott Belsky on Twitter

Scott Belsky on Instagram

BOOK: Making Ideas Happen by Scott Belsky

BOOK: The Messy Middle by Scott Belsky

99u.com

Behance.net

AskGaryVee 290: Scott Belsky on Starting Behance, Perseverance in Business, & the “Messy Middle”

The Tim Ferriss Show: Scott Belsky — How to Conquer the Messy Middle (#336)

The Real Journey image

Action Method: A Flexible and Intuitive Project Management System | 2008 | TechCrunch

BOOK: Anything You Want by Derek Sivers

Your Hosts:

Show Notes (fan made by @amrkhalifeh): https://medium.com/product-breakfast-club-links-unofficial